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From: David Zicarelli ()
Date: May 16, 2008
Subject: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain
In most cases, the roundness can be eliminated through the use of the more configurable UI objects such as textbutton, pictctrl, etc.  My philosophical point with preserving the shape of the basic objects is that it is used as a kind of syntax. At the point where you are using the more advanced UI objects, this syntax (the difference between object boxes and message boxes for example) is less important, because typically you are making things that look like photorealistic buttons etc.

Now you could argue that you are a super-genius advanced user and do not need David Z. to remind you of which of your boxes are objects and which are messages. Fine, I am thrilled that you've spent enough time with the software to get to that point. But part of having a "language" is a common level of understanding, and my concern is that roundness $1 and further customization of the basic objects into something unrecognizable will make understanding patches more difficult for the entire community. And frankly, I'm more concerned with making the model train club more accessible to more people than I am with making it possible for a few people to hide the means by which they create their work. As if using Max is somehow something you need to hide? If you are afraid that people won't respect you because you didn't write your application in x86 assembly code, I cannot solve your issues!

David Z.


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+ Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/13/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain gavin Peters (05/13/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Eli Stine (05/13/08)
+--------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Eli Stine (05/13/08)
+------------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/13/08)
+--------------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Anthony Palomba (05/13/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/13/08)
+--------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Chris Muir (05/13/08)
+--------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Kasper T Toeplitz (05/13/08)
+------------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain David Zicarelli (05/13/08)
+--------------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/13/08)
+------------------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Andrew Benson (05/13/08)
+------------------Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Wallace Winfrey (05/13/08)
+------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Trond Lossius (05/14/08)
+------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/14/08)
+---------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/14/08)
+---------Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Wallace Winfrey (05/13/08)
+------------Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Pierre Alexandre Tremblay (05/13/08)
+--------------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Matthew Aidekman (05/13/08)
+--------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain gavin Peters (05/14/08)
+---Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Trond Lossius (05/13/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/13/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain David Zicarelli (05/13/08)
+--------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/13/08)
+------------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Peter Ostry (05/14/08)
+--------------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Eli Stine (05/14/08)
+------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain f.e (05/15/08)
+---------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Chris Muir (05/15/08)
+------------------------ Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Eryck Abecassis (05/15/08)
+--------------------------- Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Matthew Aidekman (05/15/08)
+------------------------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Emmanuel Jourdan (05/15/08)
+--------------------------------- Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Matthew Aidekman (05/15/08)
+---------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain f.e (05/16/08)
+------------------------ Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Peter Castine (05/17/08)
+--------------------------- Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Eryck Abecassis (05/17/08)
+---------------------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Julien Rabin (05/17/08)
+---------------------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/17/08)
+---------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Julien Rabin (05/16/08)
+---------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain joachim montessuis (05/17/08)
+------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/15/08)
+------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/16/08)
+--------------------- Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/16/08)
+------------------------ Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Adam Barnett (05/16/08)
+------------------------ Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain David Zicarelli (05/16/08)
+--------------------------- Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Peter Ostry (05/16/08)
+---------------------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain f.e (05/18/08)
+------------------------------ Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain David Huff (05/18/08)
+------------------------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Kasper T Toeplitz (05/19/08)
+------------------------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/19/08)
+--------------------------------- Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Peter Ostry (05/19/08)
+------------------------------------ Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Charles Baker (05/19/08)
+------------------------------------ Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Charles Baker (05/19/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain marcos (05/13/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain mdk (05/13/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Nicholas C. Raftis III (05/13/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Leo Mayberry (05/14/08)
+------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Todor Todoroff (05/14/08)
+---------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Emmanuel Jourdan (05/14/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Bas van der Graaff (05/14/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Blake Shaw (05/14/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain alain (05/16/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Lut Lei (05/16/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/16/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Lut Lei (05/16/08)
+---Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Morgan Sutherland (05/17/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Charles Baker (05/18/08)
+------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain f.e (05/20/08)
+--------- Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Charles Baker (05/20/08)
+------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain f.e (05/21/08)
+---------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Brad Garton (05/21/08)
+------------------ Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Charles Baker (05/21/08)
+---------------------Re: Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain f.e (05/21/08)
+---------------------Re: Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/22/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain alain (05/19/08)
+---Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Morgan Sutherland (05/19/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain vade (05/19/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Peter Ostry (05/19/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Robert Henke (05/20/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Leo Mayberry (05/20/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain joachim montessuis (05/20/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Robert Henke (05/20/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Nicholas C. Raftis III (05/20/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain David Zicarelli (05/20/08)
+---------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Julien Rabin (05/20/08)

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