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From: f.e ()
Date: May 15, 2008
Subject: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain
Enola = no troll. You are.

Enola is pissed off and he's right. It's our tool, we'll have to work 
with it for the next few years. No choice.

This tool was not flawless but we were comfortable with it. It's still 
far to be flawless but know it is objectively ugly, unreadable and 
(subjectively) toyish.

If you're happy with it, we don't care in this thread. No use to say 
bravo ten million times, everybody did. Obviously, you're one of those 
whose computers got some magic redraw engine to unblur the anti-aliased 
fonts. So bad i don't have one.

Enough with this new world of "kindness" where everybody say "you're 
sitting on my car but i love your haircut". The font IS blurry on max 5. 
It's a fact. And max is nothing but text. Enjoy.

Let's talk about how disrespectfull is Greg Taylor when he laughs at the 
"no rounded corners" request, among other things, while it's not even 
consistent. Take a bunch of messages, see how rounded they are, so 
rounded you'll build panels if you need some, then let's tell me what to 
do with waveform~, jit.cellblock and so on ? At least, make then rounded 
before betting beers about the time we'll waste building squared boxes 
when the API will come.

Just because of the squared nature of the old UI objects, you should 
have brought a roudness option for the new interface. Tell me i'm wrong.

Anyway, at least, David explained why the fonts are blurry. We now know 
it won't change anyday soon.

f.e

f.e chanfrault | aka | personal computer music
 >>>>>>> http://www.personal-computer-music.com
 >>>>>>> |sublime music for a desperate people|


Eli Stine a écrit :
> Jesus, is this still going on?
> 
> You guys know what a troll is? It's all about winning and losing with people who are trolling.
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+ Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/13/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain gavin Peters (05/13/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Eli Stine (05/13/08)
+--------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Eli Stine (05/13/08)
+------------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/13/08)
+--------------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Anthony Palomba (05/13/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/13/08)
+--------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Chris Muir (05/13/08)
+--------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Kasper T Toeplitz (05/13/08)
+------------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain David Zicarelli (05/13/08)
+--------------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/13/08)
+------------------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Andrew Benson (05/13/08)
+------------------Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Wallace Winfrey (05/13/08)
+------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Trond Lossius (05/14/08)
+------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/14/08)
+---------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/14/08)
+---------Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Wallace Winfrey (05/13/08)
+------------Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Pierre Alexandre Tremblay (05/13/08)
+--------------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Matthew Aidekman (05/13/08)
+--------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain gavin Peters (05/14/08)
+---Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Trond Lossius (05/13/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/13/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain David Zicarelli (05/13/08)
+--------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/13/08)
+------------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Peter Ostry (05/14/08)
+--------------- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Eli Stine (05/14/08)
+------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain f.e (05/15/08)
+---------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Chris Muir (05/15/08)
+------------------------ Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Eryck Abecassis (05/15/08)
+--------------------------- Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Matthew Aidekman (05/15/08)
+------------------------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Emmanuel Jourdan (05/15/08)
+--------------------------------- Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Matthew Aidekman (05/15/08)
+---------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain f.e (05/16/08)
+------------------------ Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Peter Castine (05/17/08)
+--------------------------- Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Eryck Abecassis (05/17/08)
+---------------------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Julien Rabin (05/17/08)
+---------------------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/17/08)
+---------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Julien Rabin (05/16/08)
+---------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain joachim montessuis (05/17/08)
+------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/15/08)
+------------------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/16/08)
+--------------------- Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/16/08)
+------------------------ Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Adam Barnett (05/16/08)
+------------------------ Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain David Zicarelli (05/16/08)
+--------------------------- Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Peter Ostry (05/16/08)
+---------------------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain f.e (05/18/08)
+------------------------------ Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain David Huff (05/18/08)
+------------------------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Kasper T Toeplitz (05/19/08)
+------------------------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/19/08)
+--------------------------------- Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Peter Ostry (05/19/08)
+------------------------------------ Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Charles Baker (05/19/08)
+------------------------------------ Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Charles Baker (05/19/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain marcos (05/13/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain mdk (05/13/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Nicholas C. Raftis III (05/13/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Leo Mayberry (05/14/08)
+------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Todor Todoroff (05/14/08)
+---------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Emmanuel Jourdan (05/14/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Bas van der Graaff (05/14/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Blake Shaw (05/14/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain alain (05/16/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Lut Lei (05/16/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Enola (05/16/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Lut Lei (05/16/08)
+---Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Morgan Sutherland (05/17/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Charles Baker (05/18/08)
+------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain f.e (05/20/08)
+--------- Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Charles Baker (05/20/08)
+------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain f.e (05/21/08)
+---------------Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Brad Garton (05/21/08)
+------------------ Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Charles Baker (05/21/08)
+---------------------Re: Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain f.e (05/21/08)
+---------------------Re: Re: Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Stefan Tiedje (05/22/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain alain (05/19/08)
+---Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Morgan Sutherland (05/19/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain vade (05/19/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Peter Ostry (05/19/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Robert Henke (05/20/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Leo Mayberry (05/20/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain joachim montessuis (05/20/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Robert Henke (05/20/08)
+--- Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Nicholas C. Raftis III (05/20/08)
+------ Re: Max5 == Physical Pain David Zicarelli (05/20/08)
+---------Re: Re: Max5 == Physical Pain Julien Rabin (05/20/08)

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