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From: chthonic streams ()
Date: May 5, 2008
Subject: Re: AFX @ Coachella
yes, i know what a DJ set is.  this is part of my point though, was it  
billed as a DJ set?  if i went to an AFX show i'd expect it to be a  
"show" not a DJ set.  as you say, he is not a DJ in the first place.

this was my issue with seeing ellen allien play with t. raumschmiere  
and apparat a few years ago.  they played sets off their laptops and  
keyboards, she crouched down and spun records.  mind you, the set was  
excellent as allien is a great techno DJ, but i went expecting to have  
her playing and singing.  same with mira calix.

i don't really get DJ sets booked into performance venues.  they are 2  
different things.  having the DJ up on a stage - there's no point  
really.   nothing to look at (well except ellen allien, she is just  
cute and charming to watch).  unless you have some master turntablist  
and you hang a camera over the decks and project that on a screen to  
watch his hands as he moves the records and mixer or something.



On May 5, 2008, at 5:19 AM, n3wjack wrote:

> 2008/5/4 chthonic streams :
>
>> yeah that would basically be my point of contention.  if i go see a  
>> live
>> show of an artist i like, i'd at least like to hear THEIR music.
>>
>
>
> That's usually the case with DJ sets. People spin some records, not
> necessarily their own.
>
> In most DJ cultures this is common. In fact, when it comes to  
> drum'n'bass
> for instance the ones that do play only their own music are sometimes
> regarded as lame.
> Dillinja is probably the only one who does this. Paradox has a  
> tendency to
> do this as well, but he tends to do very a-typical DJ sets anyway,  
> since
> he's not really a DJ in the first place.
>
> I see that in breakcore circles artists are more into playing their  
> own
> stuff, but in this case it's more of a performance than a DJ set.
>
> Which is also what AFX is I guess. I doubt his best skill is DJing,  
> hence he
> isn't good at it. It's typical for electronic music though that good
> producers are called in to play DJ sets because their name brings in  
> a lot
> of folks, but sometimes you're better off checking out a tru DJ, who  
> can
> really create a vibe on the floor and play a good set, instead of  
> just a
> bunch of records.
>
> -- 
> "progress doesn't come from early risers
> progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things"
>
> http://n3wjack.net
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+Re: AFX @ Coachella chthonic (04/29/08)
+---Re: AFX @ Coachella n3wjack (04/29/08)
+------Re: AFX @ Coachella Josh Steiner (04/29/08)
+---Re: AFX @ Coachella Mark Fleschler (04/29/08)
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+------Re: AFX @ Coachella Greg J. Smith (05/04/08)
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+---Re: AFX @ Coachella William Lebreton (05/04/08)
+------Re: AFX @ Coachella chthonic streams (05/04/08)
+---Re: AFX @ Coachella Michael Kuszynski (05/04/08)
+---Re: I find all these posts about AFX at coachella Ed Hoc (05/04/08)
+---Re: AFX @ Coachella n3wjack (05/05/08)
+------Re: AFX @ Coachella chthonic streams (05/05/08)
+---Re: AFX @ Coachella Ed Hoc (05/05/08)
+------Re: AFX @ Coachella chthonic streams (05/05/08)
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+---Re: AFX @ Coachella n3wjack (05/05/08)
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+---Re: AFX @ Coachella Ed Hoc (05/05/08)
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+---Re: AFX @ Coachella Ed Hoc (05/05/08)

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