From: Chuckk Hubbard ()
Date: Apr 28, 2005
Subject:
Re: Scoring
Actually I wasn't scoring for film before. I just learned how in
Digital Performer at school, and figured out how in Sonar.
The problem with using Sonar is it doesn't do the kind of microtuning
I want. I'll probably do some standard tuning scoring, probably more
so, but I'm curious as to whether an open-ended just tuning system
could be used with film; Sonar (any sequencer) would be more than
capable of doing a closed microtuning, you just record pitch-bent
samples and assign them to individual keys in an sf2 or whatever
sampler you're using, then compose in piano roll.
But for non-closed tuning, it has to be possible to enter ratios or
tuning numbers per note. Entering pitch bend numbers in event lists
does work, and I've tried that for stuff other people had already
composed, but it's grueling, and impossible to actually compose with.
I read up on CsoundAV's GL opcodes last night, and I think it might
have what I'm looking for. It looks like I would have to go back and
forth between CsoundAV and a score editor. That wouldn't be a
problem.
Anyone know, what's the best way to skip around in CsoundAV? Would I
have to use score statements to start from certain points, or is it
possible to build a transport GUI?
-Chuckk
On 4/28/05, Michael Gogins wrote:
> I don't use Blue, but I've looked at it several times and talked about it=
quite a bit with Steven Yi, its author. Looks to me like a good choice fo=
r you -- I think you should give it a try.
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> The other choice would be to keep using Sonar and export your score as a =
MIDI file, which csound 5 can render quite well, I think.
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> But I didn't realize till now that you are scoring for video or film or s=
omething. I've never heard of anyone using Csound in sync with moving pictu=
res. It would certainly be nice to be able to do that.
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> CsoundVST works in Cubase SX 3 which I just upgraded, but performance is =
not really very good. I'm going to look into that (might have something to =
do with the GUI, which I could fix). Cubase SX 3 automatically adds an audi=
o level channel to VST instrument channels, which makes it much easier to u=
se CsoundVST since now you can adjust the gain if your orchestra is too lou=
d or too soft. SX 3 has both surround (5.1 anyway) and sync to video. If I =
can improve the performance, scoring with CsoundVST in SX 3 will be quite a=
ttractive -- Csound with surround sound! Other than being a CPU hog, Csound=
VST in SX 3 seems to work quite well.
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> Perhaps you can provide me with more detailed info about the Sonar proble=
ms?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuckk Hubbard
> Sent: Apr 28, 2005 4:05 AM
> To: Csound List
> Subject: [Csnd] Scoring
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> Hi. I'm interested in finding ways to score with Csound.
> I have Sonar, which has great scoring abilities, but I haven't yet
> gotten CsoundVST to work in it. I also would like to use non-scale
> based microtonal music, which won't work in Sonar.
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> So the two programs I am thinking of are CsoundAV and Blue. CsoundAV
> has video input, but will I be able to edit and run a Csound score
> synced with video? I mean, I'll take care of the tempos, but will it
> start both at the same time and stay in time? It wouldn't even have
> to output video, I can render the score separately and merge it with
> video in Sonar.
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> The other thing I can think of would be to set audible markers for any
> important video events, or even use the audio track from the video,
> and import that soundfile in Blue while composing with the piano roll.
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> I'm running WinXP. Anyone know any other options?
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> Thanks.
> -Chuckk
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> --
> "Some people got attitude,
> Backed up with attitude."
> -G. Love
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