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From: John Harrison ()
Date: Apr 2, 2005
Subject: Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument
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Oops. Now that I think about it, I'm totally not sure what the expected
behavior of a monophonic instrument is.

If I play note 1, then I play note 2 while still holding note 1, is a
mono instrument supposed to jump to note 2 or stay on note 1?

-John

Art Hunkins wrote:

  Yes, this does work - in an interesting way.

It works fine when only two keys are pressed simultaneously. It doesn't know
what to do with more than two. If three are down and you lift one (leaving
two down), there is silence; but when you lift the second (leaving one), the
first reenters!

Regarding maxalloc: starting with the *third* key down simultaneously,
maxalloc eliminates events. So, two notes are allowed with maxalloc = 1, but
no more!

Time for some sleep.

Art Hunkins

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Subject: Re: [Csnd] monophonic instrument in one instrument


  
  
    I got curious about all this and came up with what I think is a
solution. Here's the orc file, which runs with the sco file which
started this email thread.

I only have Midi-OX to test stuff with, so...hopefully it works. Anyway,
I commented it so if there's a flaw in my logic, it should be apparent.

You'll see in my code I ask this question too...why doesn't maxalloc 1,1
solve the problem? I'm using CsoundAV, BTW.

Anyway, it ain't a pretty solution...but it's all in one instrument...

-John

Richard Dobson wrote:

    
    
      I wonder whether, this being a subset of the general problem of
polyphonic voice allocation, the proper solution will require an
architectural extension to Csound  to provide a global voice
assignment framework, which can implement what we expect from MIDI,
from a monophonic instrument as requested here, to a general
voice-stealing algorithm allowing up to N instances of an instrument
(or  shared between all instruments in an orch) to be running
simultaneously?

Even if a solution can be found which requires "merely" the custom
programming of instruments, it is likely to be less transparent,
elegant or general than a solution at the architectural level.

I appreciate that this does not answer the question in the short term!

Richard Dobson



Art Hunkins wrote:

      
      
        I wondered this too. Unfortunately, it doesn't solve the problem. I
think
the truth of the matter is that Atte really doesn't want certain
notes to
play *at all.* And in this case, I expect it would be the least trouble
never to trigger them in the first place (i.e., not have them
scheduled by
an always-on instrument).

Art Hunkins

        
      
      ...

      
    
  
  

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    sr              =               44100   ; sample rate
ksmps           =               20      ; sr/kr
nchnls          =               2       ; number of channels

;maxalloc 1,1 ; WHY DIDN'T THIS SOLVE THE PROBLEM?

        instr 1
start: ; LABEL BEGINNING OF CODE FOR REINIT PASS

iamp = 7000
ifreq cpsmidi

kwait init 0

iactive active 1 ; GET # OF ACTIVE INSTANCES OF THIS INSTRUMENT AT i TIME
ckgoto (iactive == 1), SkipWait
kwait = 1 ; IF MORE THAN ONE INSTANCE AT i time, FLAG THIS CONDITION
SkipWait:
ckgoto (kwait == 1), CheckWait ; IF MORE THAN ONE INSTANCE FLAGGED, UPDATE
    
  
  CONDITION
  
  
    ; ELSE, PLAY THE NOTE
aampenv expsegr .0001, .02, 1, .2, .001
aosc1 oscili iamp, ifreq, 1
outs aosc1 * aampenv, aosc1 * aampenv
kgoto end ; SKIP UPDATE OF FLAGS IF THIS IS INSTANCE OF NOTE BEING PLAYED
CheckWait:
kactive active 1
ckgoto (kactive > 1), end
reinit start ; IF THIS IS THE ONLY INSTANCE LEFT, REINIT
end:
endin
    
  
  
  




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+ monophonic instrument in one instrument =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_André_Jensen? (04/02/05)
+---Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Art Hunkins (04/02/05)
+------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_André_Jensen? (04/02/05)
+---------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Art Hunkins (04/02/05)
+------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_André_Jensen? (04/02/05)
+---------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument John Harrison (04/02/05)
+------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Art Hunkins (04/02/05)
+---------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Richard Dobson (04/02/05)
+------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument John Harrison (04/02/05)
+---------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Art Hunkins (04/02/05)
+------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument John Harrison (04/02/05)
+---------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_André_Jensen? (04/02/05)
+------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Richard Dobson (04/03/05)
+------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument John Harrison (04/03/05)
+---------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument langdon crawford (04/03/05)
+---------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Anthony Kozar (04/04/05)
+------------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Istvan Varga (04/04/05)
+---------------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Matt J. Ingalls (04/04/05)
+------------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Steven Yi (04/04/05)
+---------------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Istvan Varga (04/04/05)
+------------------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Anthony Kozar (04/04/05)
+------------------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument jpff (04/04/05)
+---------------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Anthony Kozar (04/04/05)
+------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Art Hunkins (04/03/05)
+---------------------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Larry Troxler (04/03/05)
+------------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Chuckk Hubbard (04/03/05)
+---------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Art Hunkins (04/02/05)
+---------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Chuckk Hubbard (04/03/05)
+------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Art Hunkins (04/03/05)
+------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Larry Troxler (04/03/05)
+---------------------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Jesse Lucas (04/03/05)
+---Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Steven Yi (04/03/05)
+------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_André_Jensen? (04/03/05)
+---Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Chuckk Hubbard (04/03/05)
+---Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Chuckk Hubbard (04/03/05)
+---Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Istvan Varga (04/04/05)
+------Re: monophonic instrument in one instrument Istvan Varga (04/04/05)

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